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  • Perso Nasplit

    I quite frankly could not care less if Obama was a muslim. I know many VERY peaceful muslims and muslims that are fine upstanding citizens. What I care about are the policies that man has put into place have destroyed the economy(propped up by printing of fake money) and done the opposite of what he said(“if you like it, you can keep it” and the debt under bush being “unpatriotic”)

  • Catherine Hayward

    What the fuck is your problem with Islam. It’s just as stupid, patriarchal and dogmatic as the other two major religions infecting this world. Get a grip!

  • Curbjaw

    What founding fathers praised Christ openly? Most of them were deists who thought Christianity was a bane to society.

    I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature” – Thomas Jefferson

    Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
    -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

    “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.” – John Adams

    The purpose of seperation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strif that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries” – James Madison

    “I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies” – Ben Franklin, in Toward the Mystery

    “As to the book called the bible, it is blasphemy to call it the Word of God. It is a book of lies and contradictions and a history of bad times and bad men.” – Thomas Paine, in a letter to Andrew Dean, 8/15/1806

    “the Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma” – Abraham Lincoln

    Just to name a few…

  • Kenneth Andrews

    Why do you moronic Republicans have to ruin everything good your party can do by tainting it with religion? Just really.. Can’t someone be both conservative, and Atheist? Guess I’m screwed both ways..

    And y’all wonder why libertarians cost you right leaning voters.

  • AbnDoc

    I don’t think you are paying attention.

  • AbnDoc

    It really helps if you don’t mind using quotes that have not been shown to be actually documented or if you do not mind quotes that are not accurate or are taken out of context. But, whatever gets you through the day.

    There are many other quotes that actually show a more accurate picture of these men and that they were not agnostics nor were they merely deists. But, like most Christians they did not bow to the dictates of the Orthodox Church to tell them what to believe but rather worked out their salvation by reading and studying and learning and growing in their beliefs.

  • Sally Shively

    i don’t want to stereotype people but i have never met a muslim i didn’t like and where i live there are more Muslims than Christians. Muslim people out here have been so respectful of my family even though we are Christians. its those angry atheists that do nothing but ridicule my beliefs and try to take my rights away. i don’t think Obama is truly Muslim or Christan. he could care less about religious freedom!

  • AbnDoc

    Here are a few quotes to consider from some whom people state were not Christians. These are a little less myopic.

    “My views…are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from the anti-christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others…”
    Thomas Jefferson, April 21, 1803 in a letter to Dr. Benjamin.

    “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus….I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “Here is my Creed. I believe in on God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

    That the most acceptable service we render to Him is in doing good to His other Children. That the soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound Religion, and I regard
    them as you do in whatever Sect I meet with them.

    As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, is the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see.”
    Ben Franklin, March 9, 1790 in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University

    The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence, were the only principles in which that beautiful assembly of young men could unite, and these principles only could be intended by them in their
    address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general principles? I answer, the general principles of Christianity, in which all those sects were united, and the general principles of English and American liberty, in which all those young men united, and which had united all
    parties in America, in majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her independence. Now I will avow, that I then believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature and our terrestrial, mundane system. I could, therefore, safely say, consistently with all my then and present information, that I believed they would never make discoveries in contradiction to these general principles.
    John Adams

    “I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”
    Alexander Hamilton

    “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship
    Patrick Henry

  • AbnDoc

    I would not worry about it either if he didn’t have a habit of arming and also morally and financially supporting the Muslim Brotherhood’s attempted takeover of the entire Middle East.

  • Sally Shively

    i see your point im a republican cause i believe lower taxes actually help poor people more. there are more jobs and resources to go around. im assuming you agree?

  • Ken Foye

    I wonder if you see the irony in railing against a religion … right after asking “what’s your problem” with it. It’s obvious you have a problem with it.

  • Ken Foye

    For what it’s worth, my opinion is that Obama isn’t a Muslim, at least not a practicing one. It’s my understanding that supporting “gay marriage” and abortion are incompatible with Islam. He couldn’t support those things and still be a practicing Muslim, it seems to me. Obama’s personal/religious beliefs are of no concern to me. His job performance is, though, and that’s been very mediocre.

  • Kenneth Andrews

    100%. Its about freedom. You should have both the economic freedom. And Freedom of religion and lifestyle. unfortunately as said I’m only aloud to pick one or the other.