Mental health screening…

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  • Eddie Cheek

    Because it is so much better to have mentally sick people with guns, and guns in every class room, and guns under every pillow…

  • DannyE

    Glad you are getting on board with the program. We just need to leave you defenseless, you fight a battle of wits but you are only half armed…lol

  • Eddie Cheek

    You must have loved it when Bush sent the Nat. Guard house to house and took everyone’s guns by force, while bands of looters were terrorizing communities.

  • DannyE

    Poor misinformed eddie (butt) cheek..it was the great ray nagle that did that….again you display profound ignorance of even recent history. lol

  • Eddie Cheek

    What-ever, Bush was in office, and bungled that disaster worse than any disaster in history. Kind of like 911, what did he do after putting on his pathetic display in some grade school class room? (Ya, I am sure that he used to do that ALL the time…) He went on vacation!
    So you still have completely failed to show in any way shape or form, how arming every mentally ill person in America is going to help anything, except having more mass shootings. How much money does the NRA spend on marketing mass hysteria anyway. I am sure you are a major consumer of it. Tell us, how many thousands or millions is spent every day trying to make stupid people afraid and trigger happy? What happens when another one of those right wing nut jobs goes off the deep end? I am sick of hearing about them parading high powered automatic weapons into major groups of people looking for a fight. they need to be buried under the jail for being so freaking stupid. Just like you.

  • DannyE

    Eddie (butt) cheek, we are so impressed by your pontification…too bad you were weaned…

  • Steve

    As a practical matter: I know you are in favor of stopping crazy and criminals from obtaining guns, how exactly do you propose that happens?

    Background checks? Private sellers and private medical records seem to be a problem.
    Licensing? Criminals do not seems to be slowed by paperwork, much.
    Gun buybacks? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

    Really how do you control gun access without controlling (outlawing)gun ownership? It works in Britain?? Well then, step up and offer to repeal the second amendment and see how that goes over.

    I will give you this, at least you are honest about it.

  • Steve

    And can you answer the question WITHOUT the manifesto? I’ll start you off slow. 1 thing, how would you do it. Nothing in your blather addresses a simple question of how.

  • Eddie Cheek

    Exactly how many places have already done it for years. A waiting period, and a federal background check for felons.
    That certainly wont cure everything, but it will stop the purchase of a weapon by someone acting on a spur of the moment. i.e. Aaron Alexis.
    Secondly, I would make an effort to the public to assure them that the right to bear arms is not in danger. Even though you and I both know it is, and it will be the corporate powers who take them. But I would try to stop the people who are cracking from the hysteria that the NRA is flooding with propaganda. It is only a matter of time until some nut case carrying an AR-15, matching pistols, various hunting knives, bullet belts, and a bad attitude walks into a public area with kids and pushes some cop’s wrong button. A threat made when carrying a weapon needs to be addressed accordingly. People carrying signs aren’t terrorists, people carrying weapons are.

  • Eddie Cheek

    NOtice how my post was deleted even though it contained nothing but information. Much of it was very much in agreement, but apparently the use of actual information here is not welcome.

  • Steve

    Chicago and DC are your examples. OK next step, an example of your programs that actually work. Who are requiring background checks of? What happens during a private sale? Wait for a week to be crazy? Nah I’ll just buy an illegal gun, or make one.

    When the nut case already has the gun, who do you propose stop them? I for one am in favor of letting good people defend themselves with weapons that are available to bad people.

    By the way, wherever you were complaining about me responding, didya happen to see that you comment more than me???

  • Eddie Cheek

    Chicago was unconstitutional, and that was overturned appropriately. You can’t require personal sales to have background checks, but certainly professional shops absolutely should. If you are looking to sell a gun, and you have a friend who just caught his wife in bed with another man, are you going to provide him with a weapon, or are you going to ask him to wait? A smart man would not sell him a gun. A pro shop should require a waiting period also, because they don’t care what it is for.
    A person who already has a gun, isn’t going to have to wait, but there isn’t anything we can do about laws in the past now is there? But should we be ignorant about the future because we lived in a different world from the past.

  • Steve

    So of the major tragedies noted, how did following or not following the laws change the outcome? Stolen guns or privately obtained or even legally obtained. Gun laws did NOT prevent anything. You recommend nothing that doesn’t already exist. Please note that despite the laws, people still got shot yesterday and they will tomorrow and the only way to prevent that is to point a gun right back. (see the not tragedy at Clackamas Town Center for reference)

  • Eddie Cheek

    Aaron Alexis was able to walk into a gun store and buy a weapon with no background check, or waiting period. That was the very real difference between life and death for many people. He could have purchased a gun privately, but that could have been the difference that prevented the event.
    There is a huge difference between protecting your home or business, and walking around looking for an opportunity to shoot someone.

  • Steve

    Tell me, what would a background check have discovered? His private medical records? His irrelevant history? He did something bad. The best way to stop that is to stop him in his tracks. If ANY of those highly trained personnel were armed…this never happened

  • Eddie Cheek

    A waiting period would have given him time to cool off. How many acts of violence have you participated in, that you would not have if you had a few days to think about it first?

  • Eddie Cheek

    Consider this, a man has spent 35 years in prison for murdering someone with a shotgun. after he is released, the law says he is not allowed to own a gun. But he walks into a walmart, and decides that the law doesnt matter. Somebody has insulted him and he will pay him back, or die. Should we make it as easy as we possibly can for this man to buy a weapon? Should we do this, and say that it is best for the person he wants to kill should be armed with an even bigger gun? What if the target is a 10 year old kid with a smart mouth? Are the parents supposed to stand with arms at all times to protect their family? Where is this end? Certainly not with less violence.